[Scid-users] Photos of players?

[Werner Haas]

Hello all,

Maybe someone can help me.

I'm using Scid 4.6.0 on Windows XP.

I'd like to use the files FIDE.spf, historic.spf and wikipedia.spf to see
photographs of the players, whenever I open an appropiate game.

Where do I have to put these files?

I saved them to the "bin"-directory, but the program only creates files
with the extension "spi" but doesn't show any photographs.

The information in scid itself seems to refer to the Linux version:

"If Scid can find a suitable photo file (either in ~/.scid or Scid's
share directory within the photos folder) and photos for the players
exist, also these photos show up in the information area. (Suitable photo
files can be downloaded from the Scid website; a documentation of their
format is contained within these files.) However, the player photos tend
to hide some text in the information area. Therefore, they can be
minimised temporarily by clicking on them."

Do these files work only in Linux? Or am I just missing something when I
try to install those files?

I would very much appreciate your help

Kind regards

Werner

[Okechukwu Iwu]

One more place to check is to "set" the Spellcheck file. It seems that
Scid 4.6 beta does not automatically include either spelling.ssp or
ratings.ssp (the spellcheck files) in the package, so you have to
download one. The spf/spi files need either of those to work properly.
You only need one, though. The ratings.ssp file is bigger but allows you
to add ratings to games.

You can download the zip files from the Scid site. Click "Get Scid",
then "Player Data", "Latest Data", and then download spelling.zip and/or
ratings.zip. Once downloaded, unzip the zip file (giving you the .ssp
file) and remember where you save it.

After downloading them, go to Options > Load Spellcheck File, and then
navigate to your .ssp file of choice.

You should then have the picture show up.

All the best!

Okey

Hello Okey Iwu,
Did you check the setting of the menu item: Options > Game Information

Show Photos ?

If that is set, the next place to look is: Options > Windows > Show
Game Info.

Thanks for telling me that those two settings have to be active.

I can see now the game information underneath the board, but the photos
still don't show up.

Maybe there has to be a third setting active?

Thanks again for your help.

Kind regards

Werner

[Werner Haas]

Hello Okey,

Thanks for this tip - now it works :-)!

One more place to check is to "set" the Spellcheck file. It seems that Scid 4.6 beta does not automatically include either spelling.ssp or
ratings.ssp (the spellcheck files) in the package, so you have to download one. The spf/spi files need either of those to work properly.
You only need one, though. The ratings.ssp file is bigger but allows you to add ratings to games.
You can download the zip files from the Scid site. Click "Get Scid", then "Player Data", "Latest Data", and then download spelling.zip
and/or ratings.zip. Once downloaded, unzip the zip file (giving you the .ssp file) and remember where you save it.
After downloading them, go to Options > Load Spellcheck File, and then navigate to your .ssp file of choice.
You should then have the picture show up.

As a future reminder for me (and maybe others) I just want to sum up all
the necessary steps:

To see photos of the players in Scid 4.6.0 for Windows I had to
* download the pictures from http://scid.sourceforge.net/download.html:
FIDE, Wikipedia and historic players photos
* download player ratings (or spell checking data)
* unpack the files in the "Scid-4.6.0/bin" directory
* load a spellcheck file with "Options" > "Load Spellcheck File" > choose
"ratings.ssp" (or "spelling.ssp") - the spf/spi (photo)files need them
to work properly
* set the option in "Options" > "Windows" > "Show Game Info" active -
to see the game info underneath the chessboard at all
* set the option in "Options" > "Game Information" > "Show Photos" active
- to see the photos


When I replay now a game between Capablance and Tarrasch e.g. their first
game in St. Petersburg, 1914, I can now see their portraits underneath the
chessboard.

By the way: Tarrasch won this first game.


Thanks again for all your help, Okey

All the best

Werner

[Okechukwu Iwu]

You're very welcome! Enjoy!

Okey

Post by Werner Haas
Hello Okey,
Thanks for this tip - now it works :-)!

Post by Okechukwu Iwu
One more place to check is to "set" the Spellcheck file. It seems
that Scid 4.6 beta does not automatically include either spelling.ssp
or
ratings.ssp (the spellcheck files) in the package, so you have to
download one. The spf/spi files need either of those to work
properly.
You only need one, though. The ratings.ssp file is bigger but allows
you to add ratings to games.
You can download the zip files from the Scid site. Click "Get Scid",
then "Player Data", "Latest Data", and then download spelling.zip
and/or ratings.zip. Once downloaded, unzip the zip file (giving you
the .ssp file) and remember where you save it.
After downloading them, go to Options > Load Spellcheck File, and
then navigate to your .ssp file of choice.
You should then have the picture show up.

As a future reminder for me (and maybe others) I just want to sum up
To see photos of the players in Scid 4.6.0 for Windows I had to
* download the pictures from
http://scid.sourceforge.net/download.html: FIDE, Wikipedia and
historic players photos
* download player ratings (or spell checking data)
* unpack the files in the "Scid-4.6.0/bin" directory
* load a spellcheck file with "Options" > "Load Spellcheck File" >
choose
"ratings.ssp" (or "spelling.ssp") - the spf/spi (photo)files need
them
to work properly
* set the option in "Options" > "Windows" > "Show Game Info" active
- to see the game info underneath the chessboard at all
* set the option in "Options" > "Game Information" > "Show Photos"
active - to see the photos
When I replay now a game between Capablance and Tarrasch e.g. their
first game in St. Petersburg, 1914, I can now see their portraits
underneath the chessboard.
By the way: Tarrasch won this first game.
Thanks again for all your help, Okey
All the best
Werner

[Benoit St-Pierre]

Werner, Okechukwu,

Here's a wiki entry for How to Show the Players' Photos:

https://sourceforge.net/p/scid/wiki/HowToShowPlayersPhotos/

Tell me if that works for you.

Best,

Benoit

[Werner Haas]

Hello Benoit,

Post by Benoit St-Pierre
https://sourceforge.net/p/scid/wiki/HowToShowPlayersPhotos/
Tell me if that works for you.

This entry looks generally fine to me. I'm not sure if it would be more
convenient for a user to name the zip-files explicitly, that should be
downloaded (e.g. historic.zip, spelling.zip ...).

By the way: Should there also be a link to
http://sourceforge.net/projects/scid/files/Player%20Data/Latest%20data/ ?

Thanks for writing this wiki entry, Benoit

Kind regards,

Werner

[Benoit St-Pierre]

Werner, Iwu,

I've finally got the time to reproduce the whole procedure and it made me
rewrite the HowTo:

https://sourceforge.net/p/scid/wiki/HowToShowPlayersPhotos/

Seems that one needs to restart SCID for the images to appear. Also, the
players' names files can be everywhere one wants, but not the photos' files
- they need to be in the /bin directory. This could be a problem for those
who would not like to redo that everything they reinstall SCID.

***

I've added both of your names to the Colophon:

https://sourceforge.net/p/scid/wiki/WikiColophon/

Comments welcome,

Cheers,

Benoit

[Chris Bannister]

Post by Benoit St-Pierre
Werner, Iwu,
I've finally got the time to reproduce the whole procedure and it made me
https://sourceforge.net/p/scid/wiki/HowToShowPlayersPhotos/
Seems that one needs to restart SCID for the images to appear. Also, the

Nothing weird there, I can't think of many programs that don't read
their config info on startup.

Post by Benoit St-Pierre
players' names files can be everywhere one wants, but not the photos' files
- they need to be in the /bin directory. This could be a problem for those
who would not like to redo that everything they reinstall SCID.

Instead of 'everything', I presume you mean everytime? Why should this
be an issue? e.g. If I upgrade scid it doesn't remove any files.

[Okechukwu Iwu]

Hi!

If you upgrade scid, it will want to install into a different directory
tree (which has the advantage that you can have both versions intalled,
if you wanted to compare them). So, you would either have to change the
default, so as to install into the old directory (which may cause some
issues, haven't tried it), or copy the spf/spi files to the new
installation's \bin directory.

I generally store my scid databases, photo files and spelling files in a
separate directory tree. On Linux, I can symlink to the photo files from
~/.scid/. On Windows, I need to remember to copy the .spf files to the
"bin" directory each time I install a new version of scid.

I wonder if it would makes sense to remove the "hard coding" that makes
scid look in only \bin (Windows) or ~/.scid/ (*nix) for the spf/spi
files, and instead make it configurable, using a selection dialog, such
as that used for the spelling or tablebase files?

Okey
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Date: Sun Apr 19 20:44:05 EDT 2015
Subject: Re: [Scid-users] Photos of players? - Now it works!

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<https://sourceforge.net/p/scid/wiki/HowToShowPlayersPhotos/>
Seems that one needs to restart SCID for the images to appear. Also, the
players' names files can be everywhere one wants, but not the photos'
files - they need to be in the /bin directory. This could be a problem
for those who would not like to redo that everything they reinstall
SCID. <https://sourceforge.net/p/scid/wiki/HowToShowPlayersPhotos/>

<https://sourceforge.net/p/scid/wiki/HowToShowPlayersPhotos/>
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<https://sourceforge.net/p/scid/wiki/HowToShowPlayersPhotos/>
I've added both of your names to the Colophon:
<https://sourceforge.net/p/scid/wiki/HowToShowPlayersPhotos/>

<https://sourceforge.net/p/scid/wiki/HowToShowPlayersPhotos/>
https://sourceforge.net/p/scid/wiki/WikiColophon/
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Cheers, <https://sourceforge.net/p/scid/wiki/WikiColophon/>

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<https://sourceforge.net/p/scid/wiki/WikiColophon/>

<https://sourceforge.net/p/scid/wiki/WikiColophon/>

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From: "Chris Bannister" <***@slingshot.co.nz>
To: scid-***@lists.sourceforge.net
Date: Mon Apr 20 02:10:59 EDT 2015
Subject: Re: [Scid-users] Photos of players? - Now it works!

Post by Benoit St-Pierre
Werner, Iwu,
I've finally got the time to reproduce the whole procedure and it made
me
https://sourceforge.net/p/scid/wiki/HowToShowPlayersPhotos/
<https://sourceforge.net/p/scid/wiki/HowToShowPlayersPhotos/>  
<https://sourceforge.net/p/scid/wiki/HowToShowPlayersPhotos/>
Seems that one needs to restart SCID for the images to appear. Also,
the

Nothing weird there, I can't think of many programs that don't read
their config info on startup.

Post by Benoit St-Pierre
players' names files can be everywhere one wants, but not the photos'
files
- they need to be in the /bin directory. This could be a problem for
those
who would not like to redo that everything they reinstall SCID.

Instead of 'everything', I presume you mean everytime? Why should this
be an issue? e.g. If I upgrade scid it doesn't remove any files.
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who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the
oppressing." --- Malcolm X


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[Benoit St-Pierre]

Thanks for the feedback, Chris and Iwu

I am playing in a correspondence chess championship right now and can only
invest one evening per week. Sorry for the delays and all. I'd never
thought I'd use SCID that much!

Here are my responses.

***

I can't think of many programs that don't read their config info on

startup.

Right, but the point here is that loading a spellcheck file will work
without having to restart SCID, while the same kind of procedure won't work
for photos. It took me a while to make the procedure works. There are less
patient users than me who will give up.

Sure, it's just photos, but I restarted to use the Game Information Area to
see mug faces!

***

Why should this be an issue? e.g. If I upgrade scid it doesn't remove any

files.

There are many issues with this, neither of which are critical.

The first depends upon how you upgrade SCID. As Iwu, I upgrade SCID in a
new directory, which means I keep my old installation intact, in case
something broken happens, or in my specific case because I test many
versions of SCID. Also, we give users a portable binary, which means
either a new directory gets created, or the old one gets replaced by a new
SCID installation. I often use SCID from an USB key, and prefer that kind
of install in general.

The second is architecture consistency. While I can understand how SCID
came to organize its files the way it does, to put data files in the /bin
directory may be tough to justify on conceptual ground. Besides, there's
already /bin/books, /bin/tcl, /bin/data (!), etc. I see no reason why there
should not be something like /bin/players, or better yet why we shan't
separate /bin and /data, where /data could be used to store players' info
and other kinds of data, in a subdirectory (or not, as I dislike
subdirectories in general).

That said, if it means messing with SCID's code, then I'd say the hell with
conceptual consistency!

***

I wonder if it would makes sense to remove the "hard coding" that makes

scid look in only \bin (Windows) or ~/.scid/ (*nix) for the spf/spi files,
and instead make it configurable, using a selection dialog, such as that
used for the spelling or tablebase files?

As I see it, this could be like another Options/Load... options. This way,
one would not need to have multiple copies of these files if one has many
installations of SCID. I could add this as a feature request in the SF's
tickets if you want.

Again, if it's too much work, I'd suggest we'd put this at the bottom of
the pile of things to do.

***

A question: I tried using links of files in /bin, and it does not work in
WIN. Can someone confirm that using symlinks work in Linux?

Best,

B

[Chris Bannister]

Post by Benoit St-Pierre
Thanks for the feedback, Chris and Iwu
I am playing in a correspondence chess championship right now and can only
invest one evening per week. Sorry for the delays and all. I'd never
thought I'd use SCID that much!
Here are my responses.
***

I can't think of many programs that don't read their config info on

startup.
Right, but the point here is that loading a spellcheck file will work
without having to restart SCID, while the same kind of procedure won't work
for photos. It took me a while to make the procedure works. There are less
patient users than me who will give up.
Sure, it's just photos, but I restarted to use the Game Information Area to
see mug faces!
***

Why should this be an issue? e.g. If I upgrade scid it doesn't remove any

files.
There are many issues with this, neither of which are critical.
The first depends upon how you upgrade SCID. As Iwu, I upgrade SCID in a
new directory, which means I keep my old installation intact, in case

OK. In my case I update with 'apt-get update'

Post by Benoit St-Pierre
something broken happens, or in my specific case because I test many
versions of SCID. Also, we give users a portable binary, which means
either a new directory gets created, or the old one gets replaced by a new
SCID installation. I often use SCID from an USB key, and prefer that kind
of install in general.
The second is architecture consistency. While I can understand how SCID
came to organize its files the way it does, to put data files in the /bin
directory may be tough to justify on conceptual ground. Besides, there's
already /bin/books, /bin/tcl, /bin/data (!), etc. I see no reason why there
should not be something like /bin/players, or better yet why we shan't
separate /bin and /data, where /data could be used to store players' info
and other kinds of data, in a subdirectory (or not, as I dislike
subdirectories in general).

Is there not the FHS to consider?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard

[Okechukwu Iwu]

I think part of the confusion in this discussion lies in the fact that
Benoit is referring to the layout of files in the Windows version, which
is rather different from the layout of scid-related files in the Linux
version. I guess using the convention "\bin\data" rather than
"/bin/data" etc might have been more accurate :)

The Linux version does follow FHS by default, as far as I can tell.

Okey

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From: "Chris Bannister" <***@slingshot.co.nz>
To: scid-***@lists.sourceforge.net
Date: Tue Apr 28 08:30:08 EDT 2015
Subject: Re: [Scid-users] Photos of players? - Now it works!

Post by Benoit St-Pierre
Thanks for the feedback, Chris and Iwu
I am playing in a correspondence chess championship right now and can
only
invest one evening per week. Sorry for the delays and all. I'd never
thought I'd use SCID that much!
Here are my responses.
***

I can't think of many programs that don't read their config info on

startup.
Right, but the point here is that loading a spellcheck file will work
without having to restart SCID, while the same kind of procedure won't
work
for photos. It took me a while to make the procedure works. There are
less
patient users than me who will give up.
Sure, it's just photos, but I restarted to use the Game Information
Area to
see mug faces!
***

Why should this be an issue? e.g. If I upgrade scid it doesn't remove
any

files.
There are many issues with this, neither of which are critical.
The first depends upon how you upgrade SCID. As Iwu, I upgrade SCID in
a
new directory, which means I keep my old installation intact, in case

OK. In my case I update with 'apt-get update'

Post by Benoit St-Pierre
something broken happens, or in my specific case because I test many
versions of SCID.  Also, we give users a portable binary, which means
either a new directory gets created, or the old one gets replaced by a
new
SCID installation. I often use SCID from an USB key, and prefer that
kind
of install in general.
The second is architecture consistency. While I can understand how
SCID
came to organize its files the way it does, to put data files in the
/bin
directory may be tough to justify on conceptual ground. Besides,
there's
already /bin/books, /bin/tcl, /bin/data (!), etc. I see no reason why
there
should not be something like /bin/players, or better yet why we shan't
separate /bin and /data, where /data could be used to store players'
info
and other kinds of data, in a subdirectory (or not, as I dislike
subdirectories in general).

Is there not the FHS to consider?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard>  
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard>
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who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the
oppressing." --- Malcolm X


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[Okechukwu Iwu]

Hi!

I can confirm that creating symlinks in ~/.scid for photo files located
in "random" places, works in Linux. I have not tried true symlinks on
Windows yet, to see if that would work.

I think the "Options/Load..." would be best, allowing the most
flexibility. Adding it as a feature request would be nice :)

Okey
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[Fulvio]

Post by Okechukwu Iwu
I think the "Options/Load..." would be best, allowing the most
flexibility. Adding it as a feature request would be nice :)

I've pushed a patch that adds a Options->Photos directory...
Let me know if it works fine.
Bye,
Fulvio

[Okechukwu Iwu]

Hi Fulvio,

I applied the patch to
scid-code-ae199eb3496714b50d2cbd204492d61022b2da76. I compiled using the
patch, but could not run scid, getting this error instead:

can't read "droppedaliases": no such variable
while executing
"set droppedcount $droppedaliases"
(procedure "loadPlayersPhoto" line 18)
invoked from within
"loadPlayersPhoto"
(file "/usr/share/scid/tcl/main.tcl" line 613)
invoked from within
"source [file nativename [file join $::scidTclDir "$f"]]"
("foreach" body line 2)
invoked from within
"foreach f $tcl_files {
source [file nativename [file join $::scidTclDir "$f"]]
}"
(file "/usr/share/scid/tcl/start.tcl" line 1191)

Okey

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I've pushed a patch that adds a Options->Photos directory... Let me
know if it works fine. Bye, Fulvio